Jonathan Jay Couey (00:00:00): I think it's really important to say things like intramuscular injection of any Jonathan Jay Couey (00:00:04): combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:00:09): So you say it really succinctly so that every biologist and every gas station Jonathan Jay Couey (00:00:15): attendant can understand exactly what you're saying. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:00:18): And you don't use any of the words that are poorly defined like virus or vaccine. (00:00:22): Right. (00:00:36): Thank you. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:00:51): All righty. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:00:51): Thanks for joining me today. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:00:52): I'm Dr. Lee Merritt, once an orthopedic and spinal surgeon, and now your professional rebel. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:00:57): I am the doctor the FDA warned you about. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:00): And I am really excited about today's guest because I was just at Red Pill. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:05): And as you know, I've been trying to convince people that this is all a big scam about the virus. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:14): And whatever virus we want to talk about, polio virus, COVID virus, it's all a big scam. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:20): And it's for control and for whatever. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:23): We can argue the motive, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:24): but it's just not true when you go back into the literature and you read the old science. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:29): Well, but I'm just a dumb orthopedic surgeon, okay? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:32): This isn't my specialty, but today I've got Dr. Jay Cooey, and he is a PhD in neurobiology. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:40): And he also spoke at Red Pill and laid out the case from a little different Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:46): perspective and actually with a lot of technical detail. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:49): So I'm really excited to have him on, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:51): and we're just going to talk back and forth and go through this so that we can make Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:55): it understanding to all of you. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:56): So thanks so much for joining me. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:01:59): Jay, this is really, really awesome. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:01): I'm really happy to be here. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:02): Thanks a lot. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:03): It's too bad we didn't actually get to meet very much at the Red Pill. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:06): But every time I saw you there, the same thing that was happening to me was happening to you. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:11): You had like four people waiting in line to talk to you. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:14): No, it was a mob scene. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:16): Move another 10 feet and your coffee gets a little colder and then there's a group of people. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:21): It was a really nice meeting, though, because it was intimate like that. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:24): Yes. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:24): And that was really not the one. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:27): I'm going to go to Tulsa. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:28): My son lives there. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:29): So it's a good excuse to go down. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:30): But yeah, I really love Red Pill. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:32): I have to say I have learned so much because it's not a one topic thing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:36): For people that haven't gone, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:38): for example, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:39): Mr. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:39): Bannister, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:39): who was an IRS gun toting agent, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:43): spoke on how he discovered the IRS and taxes were a fraud, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:47): federal income taxes. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:49): And he's very, very convincing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:50): Very good. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:51): And payment was there and just lots of different. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:54): I mean, whatever you want to learn about at some point, you're going to find it a red pill. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:02:57): I think that's that's what's great. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:02:59): Yeah, I think Barrister is one of these very, very, I mean, I knew him in college. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:03:03): I saw him when he was in this freedom to fascism movie. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:03:07): He was really something special to me. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:03:09): Like he was in there with Mike Rupert and a few other people that were really Jonathan Jay Couey (00:03:14): first on my radar a long, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:03:15): long time ago, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:03:16): before I realized that they were lying about everything, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:03:18): and I just thought they were lying about politics and stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:21): Well, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:21): see, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:21): that's, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:21): and I'll tell you, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:22): let me just start there, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:23): because that's what I said to myself when I first heard Thomas Cowan and Andy Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:29): Kaufman talking about the fact that there were no viruses. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:32): Now, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:32): I knew I was on just for backing up. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:35): I was at one point in my life on a subcommittee of the Congress and we looked at Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:39): future technology for the naval services. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:41): I literally I literally sat in a locked room with the captains of the military industrial complex. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:46): But I wasn't I didn't really have much to contribute. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:48): So I decided to learn something about bioweapons and chemical weapons. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:52): which I did, and I started following that community. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:54): So I knew right away this was a scam. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:57): I knew that this was not what they were telling us. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:03:59): I read enough Russian. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:00): I found the Russian guys. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:01): I said, no, no, no. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:02): They're saying this is not a natural disease, and we don't think the Chinese did this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:07): That was a really interesting thing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:08): They said in January of 2020. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:10): But anyway, so I've been following this thing for a long time. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:14): When they said there were no viruses, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:15): I mean, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:16): now we're like two years into this, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:18): and I'd been screaming, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:19): don't take the vaccine, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:20): don't believe this, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:22): you don't need to wear a mask, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:23): this is nonsense, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:24): the ocean didn't just disappear off the face of the earth. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:27): Anyway, but when they said that, I kind of went... Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:30): Oh, you've got to be kidding me. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:32): Really? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:32): I mean, 45 years in medicine, I've heard this and believed it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:36): And I think the hardest part to wrap your head around, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:40): and this is what I think we should address maybe at first, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:44): is you can lie. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:45): People understand you can lie about history. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:47): You can lie about politics. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:48): They expect you to lie about politics. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:50): But how do you lie about science? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:52): Because my first question was, if there's no viruses, what are these virology PhD students doing? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:04:58): I think I get it now, but let me just run that to you. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:05:01): How did you? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:02): So it's been a long journey, and I don't know that any of us are there at the end of it yet. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:06): Right. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:07): I'm sure there's no end. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:08): And I do think, though, that one of the overarching messages is that there isn't a simple answer. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:15): And I do think that although I have a great deal of respect for everybody that is Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:20): trying to figure this out, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:22): I do think it's possible that the no virus narrative was curated in a malevolent Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:29): way for a little while at the beginning of the pandemic, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:31): very much similar to how the no AIDS Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:35): narrative was curated in a very specific way in the 80s and the way that the latent Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:40): virus narrative was curated in the 90s around chronic fatigue syndrome, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:46): these same people in the background that are interested in a biosecurity state Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:51): having priority over every other sort of idea, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:05:56): these people have been working for a very long time to establish a mythology around Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:02): the pandemic potential of DNA and later RNA viruses. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:06): And so it's taken me a long time to understand that even though there are Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:12): literature and years and years of legitimate biological research Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:18): And behind the scenes, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:19): if they want to, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:21): they can use money and use influence to create whole narratives inside of biology Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:29): that aren't real. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:30): And one of those, I think that everybody could kind of Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:33): understand from a 30,000 foot perspective, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:35): I wonder if you feel the same way, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:38): is that if cancer is a relatively random thing that has to do with toxins or Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:43): misregulation of a gene in one particular tissue or another, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:48): then the whole idea that the Human Genome Project has created an impetus for us to Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:54): find genetic causes of cancer, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:06:57): when genetic causes of cancer are probably Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:00): what, less than 1% of the total cancers that we're really facing. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:04): And so while we invest billions of dollars into understanding the genetic causes of cancer, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:10): what we're really investing in is understanding our genome. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:13): Whereas if you really wanted to cure cancer, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:16): you would approach it from any number of different ways with any number of Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:19): different theories that lots of people are aware of. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:22): But instead, NIH has exclusively focused on Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:26): those things which forward their actual idea, which is to try and probe the human genome. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:30): So we better get everybody excited about genetic causes of Alzheimer's, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:34): of autism, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:36): of Parkinson's disease, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:37): of neurodegeneration in general. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:40): Everything has to be genetic because that's how it folds back into what they've Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:45): always been trying to study, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:46): which is the genetic regulation of all of us, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:50): animals and us. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:07:52): Yeah, I think that's exactly right. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:07:55): And so they need to tell us a story about viruses being outside of us and all their Jonathan Jay Couey (00:08:01): enzymes being outside of us so that they can study it without having to encroach on Jonathan Jay Couey (00:08:06): what would otherwise be ethical barriers that are impenetrable. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:09): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:10): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:10): So that's it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:11): Yeah, there's lots of there's always there's always this this backstory motive for doing things. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:15): And you're right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:16): The human genome, that's their goal is cracking the human genome. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:20): It's changing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:20): I don't know if you saw this lately, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:22): but, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:22): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:23): I've been saying there's something wrong with the story of CRISPR. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:26): You know, I don't know. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:27): Do you happen to know Feng Zhang by any chance? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:08:29): I mean, I don't know. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:30): No, I don't know what I'm talking about. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:31): So Fung Zhang of the Zhang lab at the MIT, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:34): when I was first, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:35): now this is part, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:35): this is the where, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:36): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:37): as an orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:38): I studied a lot of things and, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:39): and I was going to, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:40): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:40): I mean, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:41): I read everything, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:42): but I didn't go down all this, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:44): this genetic stuff and how I didn't know what was going on really. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:48): And I started really studying this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:50): I spent a year of my life looking at this stuff and just at this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:53): And I have to say, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:54): When I ran across him at the time, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:58): they've changed this, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:08:58): at the time on his lab page, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:01): and he's supposed to be the father of CRISPR, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:02): it said, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:03): he says, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:04): well, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:04): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:05): when they talk about precise gene insertion, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:09): we really can't do that. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:10): What we can do is gene knockdown. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:12): And I said, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:13): Oh, my gosh. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:14): So what is this guy doing? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:15): And it was opto. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:16): His Ph.D. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:17): is in optogenetics. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:18): I don't know if you saw it recently. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:20): I wish I could find it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:21): It's probably on my Telegram channel. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:23): But they just came out and said, well, you know, this CRISPR hasn't really worked. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:28): And I've been trying to tell people the CRISPR isn't working. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:30): That's not what they're doing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:31): They might say they're doing it, but it's not what they're doing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:34): And Purnima Wong from the lab said, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:36): no, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:37): they can use a gene gun, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:38): which is plasmids, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:39): but they can't use this stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:40): So anyway. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:41): Just yesterday or today, I found this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:44): They're saying, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:45): oh, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:45): this CRISPR isn't really working out, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:46): but we got a new technology and it's bridging DNA. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:49): Did you see that? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:09:50): I did not see that yet. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:53): And I've been saying to people what they wanted, you know, DNA is a three dimensional antenna structure. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:09:59): And they're wanting to change the structure in a way that it doesn't get signals right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:10:04): And this is electromagnetic is what we're dealing with, in my opinion. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:08): Just throw it out there. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:10): You can throw it out there. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:11): And I don't think that it's not wise for me to argue against that for the simple Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:16): fact that what has become clear to me is that their goal Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:22): um is to have us teach our children that we come down to a bunch of chemicals and a Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:28): bunch of a bunch of machines and so if we can just figure out how these machines Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:32): work like we figured out how a cuckoo clock works we can figure out how you work Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:37): and so i'm sure there's an extra dimensionality to our genetics and i i i would Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:42): just as a as a biologist that hasn't read far enough into that i would just suggest Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:47): that even in the for example in the brain Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:50): um where we know that neurons are communicating with electrical signals that are Jonathan Jay Couey (00:10:53): conductances that that move at millisecond rates um and and that their their Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:00): dendrites are very close to one another so as one dendrite is depolarizing it Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:05): wouldn't be crazy for that electrical field to affect other neurons around it to Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:10): affect other Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:11): enzymes around it, other ion channels around it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:14): And so for me, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:15): it's always been fascinating whenever I've been in a conversation with other neurobiologists. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:20): And I mentioned the fact that we never talk about resonance like radio waves, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:24): because if these neurons are all electrochemical and they're actually generating Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:29): ionic conductances that have positive and negative charge, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:32): then they must be generating little magnetic fields, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:35): little electric fields that Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:37): might affect other electric fields around them. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:40): Why don't we ever think about those things? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:42): And usually neuroscientists are like, well, because we can't get a handle on it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:46): or it's hard to get an experimental handle on them. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:49): And so there you see again why academic biology is so hamstrung because all of the Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:55): questions that they're allowed to ask, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:57): that they're funded to ask, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:11:59): have to do with using specific methodologies and specific questions that never Jonathan Jay Couey (00:12:03): approach these higher levels of the irreducible complexity that you're hinting at, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:12:08): which is, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:12:09): for example, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:12:09): just thinking about DNA as something other than a recipe because it can't just be a Jonathan Jay Couey (00:12:14): recipe or we'd have figured it out by now. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:17): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:17): Or a ticker tape. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:18): I think I always say Yuval Harari looks at DNA like a ticker tape. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:21): If we could just, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:22): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:22): tick, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:22): tick, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:23): tick, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:23): tick, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:23): we'll take out a G and we'll put in a C and we'll do that. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:25): It just doesn't work that way. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:27): So, yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:28): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:29): Oh, what do you think? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:31): So I got to ask you about this one. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:33): This is another one that just that just came out in the news the other day about Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:37): brain organoids, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:38): which I have a problem with, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:40): to be honest. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:41): That they are growing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:42): You know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:42): this was a big deal about are we finding organoids in the vaccine, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:46): which I can't say one way or another. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:48): But the question is brain organoids, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:51): the idea that you can make a tiny little cellular cluster of brain tissue and run Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:55): computers from it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:12:56): What do you think's really going on here? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:12:59): um what do you have you think about it i don't know i mean more than anything with Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:02): some of these things i gotta be honest i think it's just kind of smoke and mirrors Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:06): they want to hype something that sounds very side technical and i'll tell you why Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:10): because um when i was doing my phd in the netherlands i also wrote a grant that Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:16): allowed me to study in lausanne with henry markram who's the guy who did the human Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:20): brain i mean the blue brain project which was the Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:24): one billion dollar uh eu brain project that was funded in 2002 or three and it ran Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:31): for 10 years and it's called the blue he called the blue brain project and so what Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:36): it was was a a super computer that was donated by ibm and then he was making you Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:42): know 10 000 compartment models of neurons and then coupling 10 000 of those neurons Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:48): together Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:49): and making simulated networks. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:50): And at the end of the Blue Brain Project, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:53): he was supposed to have a model of the human brain and that never happened. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:56): And he's been gotten a lot of ridicule for that. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:13:58): But the way that he approached that was, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:01): is that he was gonna make recordings from multiple neurons and brain slices. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:04): And so that's what I was doing. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:06): And that's why I went to study with him. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:08): Now, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:08): in the same time that I was in that lab, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:11): he had a postdoc that was working on growing cultured neurons Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:17): on a pre-printed circuit board. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:21): And what he was doing was stimulating the circuit board with patterns and seeing if Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:25): he could stimulate the neurons to grow in response to those patterns. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:30): And so for 15 or 20 years already, people have been playing around with interacting with Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:36): developing neuronal networks on a grid of circuits that could, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:41): let's say, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:41): for example, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:42): just flash the same pattern and see if that pattern influenced the way that the Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:46): neuronal culture connected up and then change that pattern and see if the neuronal Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:50): connections would be different. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:53): This kind of experiment is interesting from the perspective of looking at synaptic connections, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:57): looking at neuronal development. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:14:59): And then they've even expanded this now to try and get, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:02): you know, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:03): take a piece of developing brain tissue from an embryonic mouse and trying to Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:09): culture it in addition, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:10): get it to be an organoid. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:12): And then also laying it on top of a circuit board and seeing if they can they can interface with it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:18): But I think all of these games are still in such a state of, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:24): because they're not elevated by understanding. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:27): We don't know any of these answers. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:29): And so we're just trying to find a way in to understanding how neuronal networks Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:34): might develop by trying to create some experimental paradigm, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:38): which will allow us to ask questions. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:39): And this has nothing to do with interfacing one of these networks with a computer, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:44): although they could say it does and they could make amazing stories about it, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:48): but it's not, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:15:49): that's ridiculous. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:15:50): Interesting. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:15:51): Well, so I want to stay on that for a minute because I want to talk about Charles Lieber. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:15:56): So one of the guys I just, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:15:58): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:15:58): I followed him from I think it was February 22nd or February 12th or something when Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:03): he was arrested. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:04): And I remember saying to myself, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:06): OK, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:07): if this guy, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:08): if if we throw him into a deep, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:10): dark cell and throw away the key, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:11): then I will feel better that we are not behind this whole covid thing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:15): But that didn't happen. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:16): He got a little slap on the hand and they lied on his affidavit of indictment Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:21): because they claimed that he was working on battery technology for electric cars. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:26): That was the that was the nanowire tech. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:28): He's a nanotechnologist, you know. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:30): And I said, no way. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:31): They lied about what he did. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:33): Not one of his papers, none of his speeches have anything to do with electric car batteries. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:37): So this is nonsense. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:38): But what he was apparently working with, he apparently gave them. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:42): The Chinese, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:43): and, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:44): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:44): if you read, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:44): and this is probably not what you do for a hobby, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:46): but I read military stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:49): And the, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:50): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:50): the Chinese, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:52): Zhao and Wang, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:54): they were two army colonels in the PLA years ago, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:57): and they wrote this book, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:16:58): Unrestricted Warfare. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:00): And they said, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:01): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:02): their number one acquisition priority for their military for a long time has been Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:07): the ability to connect the brain to electronic devices. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:11): electronic devices. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:13): And apparently the story goes that Charles Lever gave them that through silver impregnated hydrogel. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:20): Any truth to any of that? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:21): So anyway, he got he got I don't know why he had to be taken down. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:25): But for some reason, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:26): our guys took him down and they they you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:28): they go to be a bogus claim of tax evasion. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:30): But it was really he was part of the Thousand Talents program where you can steal Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:35): technology and give it and get a bonus. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:37): So he was taking eleven million dollar grant from DARPA while he was working for the Chinese. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:43): And they both knew it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:44): I mean, they had to know it because you could look on Google and see. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:47): The nanotechnology lab that he was setting up in Wuhan was near the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:17:54): I have no doubt in my mind that they are trying to find ways to interface with the brain. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:17:59): But you just don't think they're as far as they claim? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:02): No, I don't think so. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:03): And the other reason why I think that is because basic brain-mind interface is already doable. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:08): You don't have to go through anybody's skull. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:10): You can put on a cap. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:12): And you can train an interface to control a mouse or do anything else. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:16): The stuff that Elon Musk is saying he's doing with implants is also just smoke and mirrors. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:20): You don't need to do implants to do that. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:22): We have already done this with humans and with monkeys. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:25): It's not hard. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:18:26): I thought that too. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:18:27): So why do you think he's saying, what's that scam? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:31): I think it's not for us. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:33): It's not to fool us. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:34): It's to fool other people into thinking that AI and these kinds of technologies are Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:38): so far advanced that you might as well go limp and watch Netflix. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:42): I really think that's it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:45): But I think the Charles Lieber thing, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:47): wasn't he also working on technology that could screen nanoparticles, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:51): essentially look at all viruses in a sample and just kind of like nanopore Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:56): sequencing of all material in a sample? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:18:59): I thought that's one of the technologies that he was working on, which would be Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:05): It would sync up very well with this idea that they have been using a background of Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:11): immunosignaling or signaling between conspecifics, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:15): whatever it is. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:16): They want us to believe that plants, animals, fungi, insects, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:21): And us, we don't use any form of small genetic communication. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:26): We would never send RNA. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:27): We would never send DNA. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:28): That's exclusively viral. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:19:29): Oh, I see what you're saying. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:30): I don't know if he was working on that. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:32): I think he was. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:34): He might have. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:34): Yeah, he probably was. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:35): I mean, I didn't find everything. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:37): I didn't look at everything that he was doing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:39): I was most concerned about the electronic brain connection. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:42): Because I remember that he was able to put nanowire... Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:46): around an optic nerve of a rabbit and uh basically see through the rabbit's eye Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:52): okay so it's a way and that was injectable so it's a way of injecting something Dr. Lee Merrit (00:19:56): into somebody and using them as a spy device or hooking them up to the internet you Dr. Lee Merrit (00:20:01): know this is what the internet of bodies that they were talking about so i i don't Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:05): know i don't know where it all went i have no i have no doubt that they will try to Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:08): develop such technologies i just think that they're Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:12): their consistent pattern will be that they will tell you these technologies already Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:16): work before they do, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:17): just like they told you that the Human Genome Project sequenced the human genome Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:21): when really they made a restriction enzyme map and then they asked for everybody Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:25): else's genome so they could make that map on everybody else's and that's all Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:28): they've ever done. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:20:29): OK, so explain that. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:20:30): This is a big deal, I think. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:20:32): So how what do we actually. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:20:34): So I guess I've come in my mind. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:20:37): I was thinking, OK, I can believe that we can sequence DNA and we could sequence the genome. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:20:43): But I don't believe that we can isolate an unknown sequence. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:20:49): from the background noise of all the stuff you have to do when you grow, quote, culture viruses. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:55): That's a brilliant way to put it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:20:57): I think that's really the way that most people should try to wrestle with this. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:00): You shouldn't try to get too much into the details. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:03): And I think that's really important. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:09): I had a really good thought and then it vanished for a second. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:11): Can you just repeat what you said? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:12): And I think it'll come back. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:13): Well, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:21:13): I was talking about that I finally came to the conclusion that I think they can Dr. Lee Merrit (00:21:16): actually sequence the human genome Dr. Lee Merrit (00:21:19): Because they can get that isolated, but they can't isolate viruses. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:21:24): And so they can't sequence them as they say they are. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:28): Oh, yeah. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:28): So that's part of the human genome illusion. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:31): So I think that it's possible for them to take a big genome and make lots of copies of it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:39): I also think it's very possible for them to take those copies of those genomes and Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:45): cut them with specific restriction enzymes. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:48): And if they do that, they will make fragments. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:21:52): Okay, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:21:53): so what you're saying is this isn't like putting a chain into a reader, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:22:00): like a ticker tape, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:22:02): and have it just go tick, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:22:03): tick, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:22:03): tick. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:22:03): It's glycine. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:22:04): They have to cut it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:22:08): And then they kind of play with these pieces. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:11): Right. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:11): And what the thing about it is, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:14): is that if we cut your genome and my genome with the exact same restriction enzyme Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:20): that only hit that particular target, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:22): that's how enzymes work. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:23): These restriction enzymes will cut at a specific combination of bases and wherever Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:27): they find it, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:28): they will cut it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:29): So if you think about a book and you're going to cut the chapters at every time you Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:35): find the word impossible, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:37): then you would say that this is a restriction enzyme that cuts at the word impossible. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:41): Maybe it cuts right between the two P's. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:45): Is there two P's? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:46): No, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:46): one P. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:46): But anyway, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:48): if you think about a restriction enzyme working that way, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:50): then they could look at your genome and they could cut it with the same restriction Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:54): enzyme and you would get fragments. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:56): And they would maybe let's say it would be 100 fragments. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:22:59): And then they could cut my genome with the same enzyme and see if they also get 100 Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:04): fragments and if they're also kind of the same length or not. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:08): And the difference between those fragments gives them some idea of the difference Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:12): between your genome and mine. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:14): And now what they do and what the Human Genome Project did was they cut genomes Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:18): with several different enzymes and then compared across those samples the Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:23): difference between them. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:24): And so what they've done is they've made a general map of where the variation in Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:29): humans is most likely to be found and where the consistencies are. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:34): And then they've compared some of those data to, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:37): for example, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:38): the prevalence of Alzheimer's or the prevalence of autism. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:41): And they've suggested that if you keep doing that, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:43): you might find genes that segregate to these specific observations. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:47): But that in no way is the same thing as saying we've translated the whole book from Jonathan Jay Couey (00:23:52): beginning to end and here we are. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:23:53): You didn't, you can't, it's not like the ticker tape. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:23:56): That's just typing it out. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:23:57): Oh, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:23:57): that is really, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:23:58): that is very, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:23:59): very good to know because I got to tell you, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:01): I, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:01): I thought that's what they were doing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:03): On the other hand, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:04): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:04): I keep that, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:06): that original paper of how they got the sequence that they made in the vaccine. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:10): I keep it on my desk and I keep rereading it and looking at it because every time Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:14): you do, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:14): it's like a gem of unbelievable nonsense. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:17): But, but what, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:18): But what I figured out was that when they did it there, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:22): of course, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:23): they're taking they did it from bronchoalveolar lung fluid that was contaminated Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:28): with everything in the lung, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:29): including your own genome and everything. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:33): And the guy that's just been clinically diagnosed with COVID. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:36): And then they they started out when they put it through their their their. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:42): enzyme cutters, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:43): they ended up with, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:45): I think, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:45): I haven't thought about it recently, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:46): but I think it was 57 million pieces that they put into a computer, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:52): and they ended up with a genome, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:55): and they let it play with these algorithms to come down with a sequence of 30,000 Dr. Lee Merrit (00:24:59): bases for the so-called SARS-CoV-2. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:04): And I always tell people, imagine if you're a jigsaw puzzle worker. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:08): I want you to see if I'm right on this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:11): I tell people, imagine you're a jigsaw puzzle worker, and I give you 57 million pieces in a bag. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:18): And I say... Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:20): there's a puzzle in there, put it together. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:22): And you say, well, wait a minute, what's it look like? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:24): Well, we don't know. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:25): We've never seen it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:25): This is a novel puzzle. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:28): And then, well, how big is it? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:29): Well, we don't know. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:30): But we think that, you know, most puzzles are around 30,000 pieces, but we don't know for sure. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:35): Just put it together. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:36): I mean, you couldn't possibly do it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:38): And I don't think they could possibly do this either. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:25:41): But Jonathan Jay Couey (00:25:42): No. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:25:42): And then when you when you then use that, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:25:46): you know, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:25:46): very logical, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:25:47): common sense reasoning to then evaluate their certainty, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:25:52): which is really where this all breaks down. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:25:54): They presented to us. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:25:55): They present a certain certainty like there is no reason for you to question any aspect of our science. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:02): Because it's capital S science. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:05): And that's where really this broke down early. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:10): And so you're not wrong about that. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:13): But the way that these people argue their way out of that is that they say that Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:16): metagenomic sequencing can be confirmed in other ways. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:20): But they still really don't get to the heart of the matter, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:23): which is that even full genome sequencing of this virus requires 99 primer pairs, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:31): and they never get all 99 primer pairs to amplify the amplicon they're supposed to amplify. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:36): They always have to hand wave. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:38): Oh, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:39): well, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:39): we got 75 amplicons and they weren't exactly right, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:42): but we filled in all the blanks and they've always done that. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:26:45): This is always the way virology is done, especially RNA virology. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:26:49): Computer algorithms. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:26:52): And then they come up, they call it this consensus genome. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:26:55): Oh, here, I'll tell you something funny. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:26:56): Now you may know this, but, but, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:26:58): You know how when you're looking at a scientific paper on and I'm an old fart. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:03): So this I grew up in science before the age of computers. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:06): You couldn't do this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:07): You had to just research everybody's name to see who they were and what institution Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:11): they were from, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:12): what their backgrounds are from. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:13): It took time. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:14): But now for people in the audience, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:15): you can just you got to see a scientific paper online and you want to know Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:19): something about the authors. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:21): You can wand over the author and it says, OK, he's a Ph.D. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:24): in electrical engineering from Caltech or whatever, you know. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:28): And it was interesting, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:29): some of the fraudulent stuff I found during COVID doing that, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:32): I found that papers were being put out about the benefit of masks in New York by Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:38): engineers and chemists in Texas and Caltech. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:41): So it was like, I even emailed one of them and said, do you know your names on this paper? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:46): But here's the interesting thing, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:47): that very paper that is where we got the blueprint to make the vaccine that we just Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:51): gave to all our military and everybody. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:53): When I started wandering over the names of the authors, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:27:57): There are like 30 authors on that, which is, again, that's a way to hide things. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:01): You used to just have one or two authors. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:03): There's no way 30 people did work on this problem. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:06): But anyway. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:28:07): Let me also say, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:28:08): though, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:28:08): that's another way to create a bunch of experts that otherwise wouldn't be experts. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:28:14): Great big badge on their name that says, I was on that paper. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:17): I was on that paper. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:19): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:19): No, that's right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:21): So anyway, so there's 30 some authors. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:24): And I went to the first one. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:26): And it said they're from such and such. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:28): Then I go to that site. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:29): No name. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:29): That name doesn't show up. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:30): Now, these are all Chinese, but still you can read them. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:34): You know, they're not in the in the Chinese script. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:37): They're in English. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:37): But you you I couldn't find any of these people except the last name. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:43): And as you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:43): the for people out there, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:45): the last name on a paper is usually the senior author of any way. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:49): The last name was Dr. She, the bat lady from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:55): Are you kidding me? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:28:56): We vaccinated our people with a sequence that we theoretically, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:29:01): if you believe the story, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:29:02): which you're pointing out, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:29:04): the story is just a story. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:29:07): It's just, we're being controlled by narrative. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:10): And now the really important thing to spin around here that I wrote down that I Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:13): wanted to catch back on is that you identified correctly what they call the genome Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:20): when they finally decide that the computer is right. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:22): They call it a consensus genome. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:25): Now, the crucial point to make here is that in order to study a consensus RNA virus genome, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:34): It must be created synthetically. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:36): So they must take and make a DNA copy of that consensus genome. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:41): They must grow it in quantity in a bacterial culture. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:45): And then they must either transfect a cell culture or transform a cell culture, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:50): either with the DNA they just made or with its RNA equivalent. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:54): And then... Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:55): That's where they started all of their virology on this virus. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:29:59): They made a SARS-CoV-2 synthetic cloned RNA of the consensus genome and have always started there. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:30:08): Excuse me, how did they do that? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:30:09): I mean, in other words, so they give you a 30,000 base thing off a computer. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:30:15): How do you take it from the computer and then make it clone? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:18): That's the story that they're trying to pin exclusively on Ralph Baric and say that Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:23): Ralph Baric is the guy who invented the way to do this, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:26): but that's not true. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:27): Actually, the guy that invented the way to do this is probably either David Baltimore or Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:32): Vincent Rack and Yellow. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:34): They were the ones who did the first DNA clone of the poliovirus that was able to Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:39): infect their cell cultures. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:42): And so that technique of converting a cDNA to RNA and getting it to be infectious, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:47): that was all invented by David Baltimore's lab. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:50): And so what Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:52): What Ralph Baric basically did or claims to have done is adapted very standard Jonathan Jay Couey (00:30:58): molecular biological techniques to creating a genome that was larger than they Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:03): previously juggled. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:04): So polio is a pretty small viral genome relative to a coronavirus. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:09): And so I'll be honest with you. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:12): My suspicion is, is that this is all an elaborate ruse. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:31:17): I don't understand how you go from like that. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:31:19): That's like me saying I'm going to culture my screen here of my computer to see Dr. Lee Merrit (00:31:24): what and I'm going to recreate the bacteria that I see in a picture on Wikipedia on Dr. Lee Merrit (00:31:30): my computer. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:31:31): How do they do that? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:31:31): How do they go from this electronic generated algorithmic? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:31:35): Yeah, that's the thing. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:37): I think that's the reason why we really have to be very skeptical of it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:40): Because at the stage that they have decided it's a sequence, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:45): ever after that, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:46): it's a synthetic experiment. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:48): So if we're taking their word on this sequence as being something they found, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:54): then they're creating something they found synthetically and then studying it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:31:58): But imagine that there's just one more lie there. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:01): And that they say, well, we found this. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:03): Well, you didn't really find it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:04): This is the sequence that we want to test. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:07): This is the sequence we want to play with. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:08): So we're going to claim we found it, and then we're going to make a synthetic version of it and study it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:32:13): You actually take it out of bats or something. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:32:15): This is where the coronavirus, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:32:19): they take some genetic material out of an animal, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:32:21): claim it came through the air, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:32:23): they captured it and sequenced it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:32:25): But, oh, I get you. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:32:26): So it's basically just a toxin that we're going to reproduce and we're going to test. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:29): Yeah, or worse, it is actually them playing with transfection agents. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:35): So playing with self-replicating DNAs and claiming it's just virology. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:40): But in reality, these are already bioweapons. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:42): They're pure synthetic RNAs that they are transfecting people with. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:48): I mean, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:48): that's, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:48): for example, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:49): why I find it very dubious that no one is talking about the virus like particle Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:54): patent that David Hone and Sina Bavari own, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:32:59): which is a viral like particle that is elongated like a rod, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:33:03): just like Ebola virus that they brag about in the patent can hold the largest RNA Jonathan Jay Couey (00:33:09): molecules we can conceive. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:33:10): And so they have already patents on viral-like particles that can hold viral genomes that are giant. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:33:18): And these are already patents that have existed before the pandemic that no one Jonathan Jay Couey (00:33:22): talks about, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:33:23): including their owners. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:33:24): We're talking about Robert Malone's patents rather than the patents on the actual Jonathan Jay Couey (00:33:29): technology that could carry these transfection agents to us. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:33:33): Yeah, now, okay, so let me run this by you. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:33:38): So I think I'm seeing some light here. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:33:42): Um, so one of the things that I did is when I, when I got really confused about, are you kidding me? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:33:48): There's no viruses. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:33:49): So I went back and I decided I don't have like your level of knowledge to, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:33:54): to look at the real technology and assess it if it could be actually true. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:33:58): But I know something about, about, you know, I, so I decided I'd do it like murder. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:02): She wrote that, uh, Angela Lansbury, I'll be like a homicide detective. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:06): How did they convince us of it? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:09): And I discovered, and this is what I talked about at Red Pill about John F. Enders. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:13): And John Enders was the guy that they claimed cultured the first, that could culture viruses. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:20): And what I discovered was, and this is polio, when we mentioned polio virus, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:24): So it's interesting that they, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:27): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:27): polio, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:28): what they did was they started with this slurry that they said was Lansing Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:32): poliomyelitis virus solution, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:34): but really all it was, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:36): was they took an 18 year old dead guy in Lansing, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:38): Michigan. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:39): slurrified his brain and spinal cord into a solution and they injected it in monkeys and then mice. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:45): But the thing that's notable here is they injected it in a monkey and nothing happened. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:50): Then they had to take that brain, slurrify that, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:54): This is from the Nobel Prize winning paper by John F. Enders. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:58): And when I talk about this, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:34:59): I always say if there's a sixth grader here that likes biology and wants to come up Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:03): to me afterwards and tell me why this is scientific nonsense, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:06): please do so. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:06): Because I don't think this takes a lot of education to figure this out. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:10): It's lies. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:11): So they took this... Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:12): And this is what he says at the Nobel Laureate speech. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:14): He kind of says, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:15): yeah, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:16): well, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:16): one day I was in the lab talking to my medical student, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:18): and we just decided we'd look at this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:20): And just as it happened, in the cupboard, there was a solution of Lansing poliomyelitis virus. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:25): Well, that's interesting. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:26): This is like 1930s or 40s. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:28): And I said, well, what did they really start with? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:30): What is that solution? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:31): And this is what it was. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:32): So then they took some of this, and they injected it into a monkey. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:36): And nothing happened. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:37): So they took his brain out. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:38): They did it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:38): Another monkey, you know, the first pass, second pass, third pass. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:41): They did 15 passes until they finally got a monkey to have some weakness in a leg Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:46): or something, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:46): something that looked like paralysis. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:48): And they said, well, we got the poliomyelitis virus. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:52): Now that's and then and then this is what they then did is they took that brain and Dr. Lee Merrit (00:35:58): they put it into mice. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:00): And they found that the only mouse they could make paralyzed after 12 passes was the eastern cotton rat. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:08): And they claim that they make this comment, which is just hysterical. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:12): This is such scientific bullshit talking away the result. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:17): They said, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:19): well, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:19): we couldn't get any other kind of mouse to have this reaction, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:23): but we think that's some peculiarity of the virus. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:26): I just really can't believe this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:28): That is the proof for polio. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:31): Oh, and here's the other point. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:33): Not only could they only do it in the eastern cotton rat, but in both monkeys and in rats, they tried. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:38): They took the solutions and they put them in their nose. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:42): Not one transmission. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:43): There is no evidence that you can have, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:45): like you've talked about, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:36:47): this airborne transmission of stuff from the outside coming in and making anybody sick. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:36:52): But I would challenge you, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:36:54): though, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:36:55): to realize that, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:36:56): or not realize, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:36:57): but to think about the possibility that if Ron Fauci or Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:01): That guy at the University of Wisconsin, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:04): Yokoyama, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:04): or whoever does the flu stuff, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:06): if they're starting out with a pure DNA or RNA that they are transfecting the first Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:12): animal with, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:13): it is possible that just by proximity and exposure, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:16): enough of that RNA will go from animal to animal, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:19): and then they can claim that we find PCR in the first one, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:22): we find PCR in the last one, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:24): so it's transmission. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:25): And it might just be... Jonathan Jay Couey (00:37:27): the exposure to the original pure clone which is a bad word for it but the pure i Dr. Lee Merrit (00:37:33): get what you're saying well i get exactly what you're saying and this is where this Dr. Lee Merrit (00:37:37): is what i think it it's from and what that all means and by the way that guy up in Dr. Lee Merrit (00:37:41): wisconsin he is like the grandson of the japanese guy that did a unit what was it Dr. Lee Merrit (00:37:48): 7800 or something the japanese bioweapons research 731 Dr. Lee Merrit (00:37:53): 731, the bioweapons program in China. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:37:56): Well, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:37:56): anyway, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:37:57): it turns out that like Eric Traub is one of the big names that what the bioweapons Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:03): community has been doing for since him, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:06): apparently in the 1930s in Germany. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:10): They've been they they don't really you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:13): they might want to call it viruses, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:14): what they can call it, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:15): whatever they want to. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:16): But what they're doing is he he experimented the bioweaponers. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:19): He experimented to see what kind of animals you can transfect. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:24): Like, I think that's what I mean. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:26): It's not precise like you're talking about, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:27): but this is just taking a sample brain goo from one animal and putting in another Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:32): and seeing what happens. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:33): And you do that over and over. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:34): And finally, you'll find some combination that becomes self replicating. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:39): And I think that's what they've really been doing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:38:42): And they're telling us it's something Jonathan Jay Couey (00:38:44): Yeah, I agree. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:38:46): I think that if you think about it in a general sense that they are looking for Jonathan Jay Couey (00:38:51): transmissible genetic signals and they know that animals use transmissible genetic signals, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:38:56): maybe bats have especially accessible transmittable signals that allow them to find Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:01): templates that they can play with. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:03): But these are not signals that have pandemic potential. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:05): They have biosecurity technology potential. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:09): They have medical security biology potential. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:12): They don't have Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:14): they don't have pandemic potential and so they're very interested in these things Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:17): they're very interested in this biology they're going to look everywhere in the Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:20): world for it including in ourselves and if they can find the equivalent of it in an Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:25): animal that they can then say is outside of us then they can forever keep us in the Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:29): dark about how we use these signals in health and in disease that's why they keep Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:33): it secret that exosomes are only coming from cancer and not from healthy tissue Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:38): because they don't want you to know that Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:41): And it also adds a level of complexity to the immune system that would be Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:44): irreducible in the sense of if AIDS, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:47): for example, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:48): represents retroviral communication between immune cells. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:52): And they figured that out because they accidentally mixed monkey immune signals Jonathan Jay Couey (00:39:57): with humans and the humans got very sick from it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:00): then the best way to lie about it would be to get somebody like David Baltimore to Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:04): say that he discovered an enzyme in viruses called reverse transcriptase. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:08): But our immune system would never use retroviruses to signal. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:14): And that fundamental assumption allows AIDS to be a virus outside of us that got Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:19): transmitted by bushmeat instead of being an immune signal from one animal that got Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:25): into another animal and screwed up the immune system of that animal, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:28): which is probably what happened with Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:29): Well, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:30): and of course, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:31): now it's coming out that there were six cities that they tested the hepatitis B Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:35): vaccine and then they came in and then they got AIDS. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:39): You know, that's why I think Luc Montagnier said, wait a minute, it isn't the virus. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:42): It's not what I said. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:43): I'm sorry. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:44): I'll take, you know, I'll take the Nobel Prize. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:46): But I didn't. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:40:47): I was wrong. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:48): And, you know, don't don't I would always I always err on the side of of trying to put them in my shoes. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:55): So I got fooled for a very long time because people told me I was right. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:40:58): And so if you tell people that you're right with a Nobel Prize, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:02): it's going to be pretty hard for them to come to the realization that they're wrong. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:05): No, I think he was – he's an honorable guy. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:07): I love – I think he is too. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:10): I mean, he was – Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:12): It wouldn't surprise me if they killed him. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:14): Well, exactly. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:15): I mean, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:15): how many people have the guts to admit not only they were wrong, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:19): but they did it at a San Francisco scientific meeting saying, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:22): I'm wrong about the origin of AIDS. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:41:25): Wow. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:26): That's right. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:27): I totally agree. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:28): And that's why that they didn't really... Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:32): You know, they didn't hype any of the things that he found very early. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:34): Yeah, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:35): they sort of made him sound like he was crazy when he said it was a watchmaker made Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:38): by a watchmaker. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:40): But what they did was they didn't put that into context. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:42): What he was saying is that it had to be synthetically created. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:46): It had to be a synthetic construct. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:48): There's no way that it couldn't be. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:49): And what that means is they made a purity level that doesn't exist in nature. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:53): And so it's not pandemic potential in nature. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:55): It is pandemic potential in man-made technologies. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:41:59): If they want to make enough of it and put it in places, they can. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:42:02): That's it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:03): You know what they demonetized him for, right? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:06): About he and Luke Montagnier and Jacques Benveniste, two French scientists. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:12): Anyway. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:14): Independently, Ben-Denis was working with immunoglobulin, one of these immunoglobulins. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:23): And Luc Montagnier was working with DNA. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:27): And what they both discovered was if you put a bioactive big molecule in water and you stir it up, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:34): And then you dilute it out so there's none of the molecule left. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:39): It has left behind an electromagnetic signature. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:42): And that signature can be captured and projected and the effect created at a distance, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:48): which is what I think we're dealing with when we're dealing with optogenetics. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:52): where they can think about what I just said. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:42:57): Think about if I captured, this is from the Russian stuff, from Kuznachev and Gervach and stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:03): But if I captured the electromagnetic signature now of someone dying of cancer, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:11): a mnemonic process. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:13): Can I project that at a distance? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:15): And I think that's probably true. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:17): You know, that's what Kaznachev showed that if you have dying cells, it gives off a photonic signature. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:23): This is what the Russians are really into biophotonics. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:26): And it gives off a photonic signature that can make other cells die. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:31): isolated, but in optical, well, let me back up. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:35): You may or may not know this, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:37): because this probably isn't exactly what you do, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:38): but this is, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:40): if you take a group of cells that's identical, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:42): and you split it into two petri dishes, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:44): and you isolate them from air, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:46): so they're not breathing on each other, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:48): but there's an optical window between the two tissues. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:53): And then you poison side A to see what happens in side B. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:56): If you poison side A with, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:57): let's say, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:43:58): radiation, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:00): Then you will look and see what happens to side B or you can do arsenic or whatever. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:03): But if there's window glass between the two, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:06): nothing happens to side B. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:07): But if there's quartz between the two, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:10): side B will die with the same symptoms as side A, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:13): but it hasn't been poisoned, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:14): right? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:14): I radiate side A, I put quartz in between them and side B starts dying of radiation poisoning. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:19): This was actually reproduced by a Canadian scientist. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:21): Not too long ago. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:23): But so what's the point? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:24): They called them in Russian. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:25): They called them the photonic smerty, the death photons. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:29): And they reason they realized that what's the difference between quartz and window Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:32): glass is that quartz allows UV light through. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:35): So there's something in the UV spectrum that comes off dying cells that if other Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:38): cells are close enough, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:40): doesn't work at a distance. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:44:41): But if they're close enough, it transmit this death potential to them and they start dying as well. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:44:48): Okay, I've got all kinds of crazy things to say. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:44:52): So first off, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:44:53): I want to piggyback on this idea of water and water memory, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:44:58): because I think this concept is very much at the heart of biochemistry, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:03): which I think is one of the fields that almost nobody has to learn anymore, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:06): and it's one of the ways they're dumbing down biologists. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:10): We see a lot of computer models of molecules and a lot of computer models of proteins and enzymes. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:18): And the fundamental way to understand the way that these molecules work is to Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:22): understand that they're in a highly polar solvent. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:25): And water doesn't just float around randomly. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:28): It organizes itself, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:29): especially at the smaller scales and especially around a highly charged molecule Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:34): like a protein or DNA or a nucleic acid chain or any of these things. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:39): The way that these polar solvents, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:41): like especially water, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:42): will organize around biological molecules may even, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:46): and I can just see it in my imagination, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:48): may even constitute a shape Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:51): that is, let's say, structurally stable even in the presence of the scaffold that produced it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:58): So in other words, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:45:59): if you make like an igloo out of snow, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:01): but you build the igloo over a dome tent, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:05): you can take the dome tent out and the igloo will still stay there. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:09): And it's very possible that biological molecules like DNA or RNA may organize water Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:14): molecules in such a way that when you remove them, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:17): The stability of the water structure is such that it can recapitulate the presence of that molecule. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:23): That's very... Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:24): in my imagination, that's very within the realm of possibility. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:29): And so when I heard this idea coming out of his lab, it didn't seem to me like dumb or silly. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:35): It seemed very obvious that we don't understand how proteins fold, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:39): mostly because we don't acknowledge they're folding inside of water and try to Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:44): really simulate what water would do around those proteins. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:47): I think that's one of the major weaknesses of Google Fold and all these other things. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:52): I don't think they take into account the Jonathan Jay Couey (00:46:54): the fundamental role and influence that this water has on the folding of proteins in three dimension. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:47:02): This program is sponsored by the wellnessblanket.com. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:47:05): You know, we are electromagnetic beings. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:47:09): And years ago, the Soviet cosmonauts were studied after they came out of their spacesuits. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:47:15): Now, their spacesuits were made with a palladium fabric. 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Dr. Lee Merrit (00:47:55): And I think you'll find that you're getting some really good sleep and you're doing Dr. Lee Merrit (00:47:58): good things for your body. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:48:00): So thank you very much. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:48:01): And it's the wellnessblanket.com. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:48:05): Well, you do think Google Foldo is showing us something real? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:09): I think Google Fold, they'd love it to show us something real. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:12): And I think with the folds that we've already managed to confirm in other ways, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:19): it's easy to make it seem like Google Fold is starting to realize something. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:23): But I don't think that we're... Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:26): No, I'll say it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:27): I'll say it very simply. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:28): I think that protein folding is probably something that AI might be able to tackle. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:32): I don't think it's done it yet. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:35): It's not an impossibility. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:38): That's several orders of magnitude less complicated than understanding a genome. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:42): So it's possible they could figure it out. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:45): And I think for certain applications, it's probably useful. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:48): On the other hand... Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:49): The story of the domain server that Robert Malone told us at the beginning of the Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:53): pandemic where they made a computer simulation of the 3LC protease and then Jonathan Jay Couey (00:48:57): interfaced all known drugs and pharmaceuticals from the FDA catalog with that model Jonathan Jay Couey (00:49:03): and came up with four answers. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:49:05): That's not how AI works, so. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:09): No, but it does tell you a lot about Robert Malone, but I don't. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:49:11): Yeah, so then we did water, but then we did optogenetics. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:49:14): I just want to clarify one thing. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:49:16): I think that you might be onto something with the obfuscation of this word. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:49:22): So from the perspective of neurobiology, optogenetics means the expression of Jonathan Jay Couey (00:49:30): algal proteins in neurons so that we can control them with light. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:35): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:36): And that's what I think is happening in some ways. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:38): Look at, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:38): I would argue that's maybe what's going on because look at the, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:42): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:43): they've done the studies in rats and they've done it in hearts. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:46): They can actually map the heart using this technology. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:49): So they inject you with an opsin, a light sensitive chemical. (00:49:54): Yep. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:54): And then they turn on a wavelength and they can cause the rats behavior to change. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:49:59): But when it comes to the heart, this is so precise. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:01): They can cause arrhythmia, stop the heart, stop the heart, and they can map the heart. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:07): So when I read that, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:09): I thought of the Travis Scott concert. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:12): What happened at the Travis Scott concert? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:14): Well, these young people, I mean, I don't go to rap concerts. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:17): Young people that were healthy all got injected with this unknown substance vaccine. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:23): That was a rule. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:23): They had to be vaccinated to go to the concert. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:26): Then they go to the concert. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:27): And they go through this satanic looking tunnel with this open mouth where they the Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:31): skull tunnel where they've got strobe lights, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:33): which is one of the things I use to activate options. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:36): But the strobe lights and then they get into the show. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:39): And of course, there's a million different wavelengths in there. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:42): But there's the opportunity to then bombard them with a particular wavelength that Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:47): would trigger a heart episode. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:49): And what happened, 14 or 15 of these people just dropped. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:52): They wanted to make it look like, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:54): again, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:54): this is my Angela Lansbury moment, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:56): which you're probably too young to remember her, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:50:58): but she was the homicide detective. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:03): Anyway, the amateur. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:05): So, you know, these people dropped and they tried to make it like it was a crush system. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:09): But that happened when they dropped. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:11): They didn't have enough room to do CPR. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:13): They're trying to get the concert started. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:14): But I found one survivor. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:16): And this guy says it felt like my heart stopped. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:21): I'm just wondering. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:22): And that's not the only one. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:24): Oh, by the way, that's not the only one. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:25): Did you remember seeing these... Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:30): You know you're on to something when there's official government lying to you. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:34): Did you see the Israeli guys, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:36): there were two of them, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:37): dropping onto a floor with smoke coming out their nose? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:51:41): No, what is that about? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:51:42): What? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:43): Well, first we saw people getting... Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:48): that looked like there was too much to be sunburned. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:51): It was some kind of almost like radiation burns at a mass protest in Australia. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:57): Like they had been hit with a directed energy weapon of some sort. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:51:59): I'm just saying, I don't know what that was, but we saw that. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:03): And then we saw these Chinese with their cell phones, the light would flash and they'd drop over. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:09): but we don't have any details. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:11): It was Chinese and it could have been just BS propaganda, we don't know. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:16): But then there were these two cases in Israel and this one, there was more detail to it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:20): These two guys are at this government protest in Israel Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:25): And you see this guy dropping over. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:28): And it happened twice. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:29): So it's two guys. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:30): The one guy, they saw him drop over. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:33): And he's on the floor writhing. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:35): And there's smoke coming out of his nose. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:37): And there are people trying to help him, but they don't know what to do. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:40): And I've seen it like multiple times to look at the detail. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:44): You can see it almost looks like Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:47): His cheekbones are getting red. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:48): They're getting really red and and almost like they're sinking in like like this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:53): I'm not sure that was happening. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:54): But anyway, it was changing color. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:55): And of course, he's dead. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:57): But here's the deal. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:52:58): Then the Israeli government or some some hospital there comes out and says, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:03): oh, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:03): this was crowd control and they were using smoke grenades. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:06): And this is what happened. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:08): And then. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:09): they show a picture. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:10): You're going to laugh at this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:11): They show a picture. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:12): That's a, that's a, that's a lateral x-ray of the skull. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:17): And they show something that's like, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:19): like as big as a mouse, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:21): like your computer mouse metal, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:24): like a metal capsule sitting in the skull. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:26): And they're claiming that it just, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:28): this guy got a smoke bomb in, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:30): it just took, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:31): it hit him and got into a skull, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:33): luxury skull. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:34): Now there is no way in, in bloody hell that could have happened. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:37): I mean, I did trauma all my life and, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:39): there would have been blood and brains all over the floor. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:41): It would have been a nightmare. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:43): So they're lying to you about what happened. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:45): And that made me really kind of look at this. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:47): And then I, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:47): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:48): when I'm thinking about optogenetics, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:49): I'm just wondering, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:51): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:53:51): it could have just been some energy thing, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:53:54): but I would go back to your previous point. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:53:57): And my, my feeling as a ham radio operator and a microscope guy and a guy who's done optogenetics is, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:05): I feel as though it's much more likely to be electromagnetic. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:09): So they couldn't express a protein that would make you sensitive to an electromagnetic field. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:13): That's what I'm saying. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:14): I don't think that light itself was going to be the thing. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:17): So even in that cell phone example, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:20): the signal would be much stronger from the antenna than from the light of the screen. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:24): And so I would attribute it to the signal from the antenna. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:26): Well, that's right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:54:29): I'm not making a point about the light, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:54:31): except that it might be just a... Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:35): We're going back to my main message, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:37): which is they can transfect and transform Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:40): your body with any number of genes that we know of and don't know of. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:45): If they want to express proteins in your lungs, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:47): I'm sure that they can put it in a vape and make sure that you transfect yourself. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:52): If they want to put transfection agents on something that you touch or handle, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:57): I'm sure that they can do it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:54:59): I think they could put it because they can make these DNA and RNA cheaply, like very cheaply. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:06): That's the whole argument. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:07): that all of these futurists make is that it's become pennies to make DNA. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:13): That's the reason it's also become pennies to sequence it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:15): That doesn't mean that we understand it, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:17): but it does mean we can make a shit ton of it and claim that it's spreading everywhere. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:55:22): How long a sequence? Dr. Lee Merrit (00:55:23): So then to recap, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:55:25): we can't take your gene or my genes and actually know the sequence from start to Dr. Lee Merrit (00:55:32): finish because that's just too complicated. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:55:33): But we can create DNA somehow, and then we can sequence that sequence and know what we've got. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:40): Absolutely. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:55:41): How long a sequence can we do that for? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:43): It depends who you talk to. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:44): A lot of people say that it's like the limit is around 3,000 or 4,000 bases. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:49): And so then for each genome that you would want to sequence, you can only get bits that are that long. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:54): And that would be the reverse argument that these people would make on metagenomic Jonathan Jay Couey (00:55:59): sequencing is that we're limited by our technology. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:02): That's why we get all these fragments. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:03): Stop making it seem like we're cheating. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:05): But Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:05): In reality, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:06): this is a limitation that rather than acknowledging it, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:09): they are hand-waving it away and claiming certainty. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:12): And this has been done for 30 years. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:14): That's why we're here. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:56:17): Hand waving it away and claiming certainty describes most of what I've discovered Dr. Lee Merrit (00:56:21): about my own profession. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:56:23): I can't believe it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:56:25): That's exactly what this is. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:27): And so that goes all the way back to quartz glass, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:30): which I think is also a very interesting little nugget that you dropped there Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:33): because quartz glass is also extremely high resistance. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:38): So it's better than borosilicate glass and more low noise, but it's extremely... Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:46): So you can make a really nice electrical signal with a neuron with quartz glass. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:52): And actually quartz glass was the material that allowed them to make single channel recordings. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:56:58): And that's what actually got them the Nobel Prize in 1991 for patch clamp. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:57:03): Edward Nair and Bert Sackman used silica or quartz glass to record single ion Jonathan Jay Couey (00:57:10): channels at single ion resolution or single ion channel resolution, Jonathan Jay Couey (00:57:15): not single ion resolution. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:57:16): And that's what they got the Nobel Prize for. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:57:18): And so quartz glass was a very crucial tool. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:57:22): And so it's really just it's I find it very curious. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:24): Well, let me. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:25): So here's another little factoid then that might you can put together maybe because I can't. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:30): But Royal Rife in the 1920s, you know, he made his fabulous. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:36): microscopes and they had 15,500 magnification and he could follow bacteria live in, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:44): and he could see the wavelengths and everything. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:46): And it was all the way. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:49): Oh, that's okay. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:51): Is all quartz optics throughout the microscope. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:54): That is a key point in his optic now. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:57:57): And just to know that, cause I go down these weird. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:58:00): Oh my gosh, this is going my mind. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:58:03): I love it. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:58:03): I love it. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:05): So today, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:06): when you're a physician and you want to have a microscope to look at things, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:11): unless you're going to spend a big dough, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:14): and then you can maybe get up to 5,000 magnification. (00:58:18): I know it exactly. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:20): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:20): But the average person, I mean, we can only get like a 2,000, 2,400 magnification. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:25): magnification microscope and he's had 15,500 in the 1920s it it asked the question Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:32): why in the world can we not have this technology today i did not know this story Jonathan Jay Couey (00:58:36): i'm actually i swear on on on i i'm i'm not kidding you i'm going to send three Jonathan Jay Couey (00:58:42): emails at the end of this well to people that make microscope objectives i want to Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:47): that would be great this is this is so exciting yeah so so the Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:51): I believe they have to tell us. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:53): I believe in the old Babylonian magic, whatever this system we're living in. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:58:59): They have to tell us. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:00): Have you seen the show The Silo? Jonathan Jay Couey (00:59:02): I have not. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:59:03): Okay, another one. Jonathan Jay Couey (00:59:04): Wow. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:04): No, yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:05): So the silo is very interesting. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:07): And one of the things, it's about a group of people, and I can't remember, 10,000 maybe or more people. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:12): And it's a vertical tube, like a huge silo in the ground. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:16): They've been living there for generations. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:18): They've lost the history to know why they're there, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:21): but they know that the world is toxic out there for some reason, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:23): and they can't go out there. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:25): But there's two things and they have a sheriff and they have people running the place and everything. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:30): There's two things. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:30): And I can't remember the first one that will that is like capital punishment is Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:34): being chucked out of the silo. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:36): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:37): And let me just turn that off. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:38): And. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:42): Anyway, so there are two things, two fractions that can get you chucked out and one of them. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:50): The doctor in the silo, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:52): oh, Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:53): I can't do that because it's illegal to go over a certain amount of magnification. Dr. Lee Merrit (00:59:59): Now, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:01): I'm going to tell you part is, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:03): and this isn't genetic necessarily, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:05): but it is like, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:07): it strikes me that probably what's happening in your realm is kind of what happened Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:11): in medicine is that in the 40s and 50s, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:15): we were going along and we were doing science and we were doing some really cool stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:20): And then they dissuaded us from going down certain ways. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:23): So, for example, when I was a medical student, I started medical school in 1976. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:27): We were told everybody should look at everybody's. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:29): If you're a good doctor, you look at your own fresh blood smear and your urine smear on every patient. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:34): If you don't do that, you're just one of those shitty guys. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:37): Okay. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:38): But then by the time I got graduated and was an intern, I ran into my fellow interns. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:43): Nobody was doing that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:44): I was the only one doing that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:46): And so then I gave up doing it. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:47): So we were all discouraged from looking. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:00:51): So microscopes in our offices went away. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:00:55): You know what? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:00:55): I just want to share something with you that now became very significant to me. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:01): And by the way, I'm just going to tell the audience something. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:04): You know, this is so exciting because microscopes, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:08): When you put a PhD like you are with all this knowledge in your field and an MD together, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:14): we can really figure some stuff out, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:17): I think, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:18): if we just share this knowledge. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:19): Because you know stuff I don't know and vice versa. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:21): I mean, we come at it from different reasons. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:23): This is what real science thinking is. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:26): This is a book I just bought off of eBay. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:28): It's in four volumes. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:30): It's called the Foster's Encyclopedic Medical Dictionary. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:33): It comes in four volumes, and it's from 1892. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:37): Wow. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:01:40): We knew about Foster's years ago, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:42): but it was just- I want you to see how relevant it is, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:44): what you just said, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:45): because in this book, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:46): there are only four, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:48): out of all four of these volumes, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:50): there's only Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:51): like each one has a single color panel in the beginning of the book. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:55): This is a book from 150 years ago, right? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:58): It's a long book. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:01:59): And then the fourth book, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:01): the only picture that is color in the first page of the book is, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:07): and I'm not gonna, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:07): oh no, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:08): my camera's not working right. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:10): I can't switch over to this camera, sorry. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:12): But it's a full color picture of urine and crystals and all the microscopic things Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:18): that you might see in urine. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:21): Now, this is from 1896. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:24): What you said is still going in the 70s just stopped. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:28): They didn't want you to look anymore. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:02:30): It's amazing. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:31): What would we have seen? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:33): I'll tell you one of the things we would have seen. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:35): We would have seen, which the Germans reported, but nobody listened to them. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:39): And I believe that in every cancer patient, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:42): there are parasites swimming in the blood and there are parasites in the tissues. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:46): Oh, cancer is parasites. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:48): And I've got I've become the unelected kind of unwilling queen of parasites because Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:55): everything we're seeing fits that cancer is parasites. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:02:59): The fact that they do that, that, you know. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:01): You can treat it with ivermectin, for example, and they know that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:04): They're doing these studies at the NIH, and it's just like everything. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:09): I actually stumbled across this when the military guys were all coming down, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:13): not just with one tumor, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:15): but these are 25-year-old young guys in the military. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:18): They take the shot, and suddenly they've got multiple metastases all over them. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:23): Now, why would that happen? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:24): I asked my friends. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:26): I said, would your... Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:27): So do you believe that cancer changes stripes in 2021? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:31): No, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:31): what's happening is we're knocking down their immune system and their internal Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:35): parasites are coming out. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:37): And my argument about this silo and magnification and the micro, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:42): but in predators, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:43): there's a certain way that predator animals out in the wild hunt their prey. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:48): And it's called the such and such. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:49): Oh, it's the Lewin walk, I think is what it's called. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:53): And that they they take a few quick steps and then they do a big lunge. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:03:57): OK, when you look at cancer cells and how they spread, that's how they spread. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:03): They don't go at random. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:05): They they take they take a few short steps. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:10): Of the metastases. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:11): And then they make a big lung. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:13): And I would say that sounds a lot like a predator. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:15): That sounds like what parasites would do looking for a new food source. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:18): I mean, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:18): every time you turn around, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:20): the basic science, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:21): everything seems to support cancer being parasites. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:24): And I'll send you a video. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:25): I'll send you my video. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:27): I excerpt the Germans and they show these things. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:04:32): Would that actually sync quite well with this guy from... Jonathan Jay Couey (01:04:38): His name is Sigfried. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:04:42): He says that it's a metabolic disorder that you can just get rid of glucose Jonathan Jay Couey (01:04:48): consumption and you can change the way- Jonathan Jay Couey (01:04:53): Yeah, that's the guy. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:04:54): But there's actually a dude now currently in America at a university who's pushing that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:04:58): Oh, that's from Johns Hopkins. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:00): That's the guy who ordered and he and he hired a Korean graduate student. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:04): He was doing research on this because he kind of looked at Otto Warburg stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:07): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:08): So everybody was saying it's DNA. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:11): And Otto Warburg said, no, it's but he couldn't. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:13): And he has he had a Ph.D. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:15): in medical medicine before. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:17): But they and physiology was an MD and a Ph.D. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:20): and they just laughed him out of the auditorium when he said, no, no, this is a metabolic disorder. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:24): But again, everything that parasites like is things are bad for us. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:30): Everything, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:31): everything like sugar, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:33): um, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:34): anaerobic situations, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:35): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:36): they, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:36): they, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:36): again, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:37): it's, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:37): yeah, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:37): it's all that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:38): And so what he did was he had the three, it was three bromo pyruvate. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:41): He used to block the back door, um, uh, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:46): what I want to say, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:46): the backdoor metabolism that apparently is crucial to cancer cells, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:50): but that means it's crucial to parasites. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:52): I swear, every time we look at this, it turns out parasites act the same way. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:56): So, you know, at some point we're going to have to admit it. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:05:59): They, you know, they're doing all these studies with ivermectin and Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:03): They knew years ago hydroxychloroquine in people with autoimmune disease decreased their risk of cancer. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:09): Now they're trying to smooze that over and say we didn't say that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:13): But that's not true. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:15): And we know that from long history. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:06:18): Here's the conspiracy thinker in me then. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:06:20): Then it would be totally safe for us to cure cancer saying that it's a metabolic disorder. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:06:27): It would be totally safe because it wouldn't reveal the truth. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:06:31): And we can go down that path and we can develop all kinds of pharmaceuticals that Jonathan Jay Couey (01:06:35): will help us regulate metabolism or whatever. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:06:39): And we'll never actually solve the problem if we don't. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:42): Well, you worked with glioma and so and glioblastoma. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:45): OK, well, so he's a neurosurgeon that writes a column. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:50): Blake. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:52): Blalock, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:52): Dr. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:53): Blalock, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:54): he had patients that were surviving 30 years with glioblastoma on a ketosis diet, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:06:59): but they had to be strict. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:01): If they went off of it one time, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:03): it would just come back, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:04): you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:05): because it, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:06): it, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:06): because why it was, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:08): it forced the body into fat burning metabolism, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:12): not the standard glucose metabolism. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:16): So Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:18): Wow. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:19): I'm really, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:19): really intrigued now because I love how the real biological ideas don't tend to Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:26): cancel each other out. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:27): No, I don't think so. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:28): They actually synchronize quite well together when you're onto it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:32): So I like this a lot. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:33): This is really exciting. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:34): I love this talk. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:35): Yeah, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:35): me too, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:36): because we never get, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:37): the thing of it is in science today, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:39): it's really like everybody's out there by themselves in their own little groups and Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:44): we don't talk to each other. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:46): Well, that's by design, though. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:47): That's not what I'm saying. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:49): It didn't used to be that way. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:07:51): It didn't used to be that way. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:53): Well, I'm so excited about that. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:55): I was I have to be very honest with you. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:07:58): When I got these books in the mail, that is awesome. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:08:01): I looked at these front pictures. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:08:02): I was like, why do they have a whole page dedicated to urine? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:08:06): That is so weird. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:08:08): And now I know and now I get it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:08:09): Like, it's really exciting. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:08:10): I don't know. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:11): I have a practical I have a practical fallout from that when I was an intern and I Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:15): was at the Naval Hospital. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:18): Had a patient and everybody thought he had he was he had something really bad. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:23): He had a cancer and everybody thought it was it was it was a weird cancer called Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:30): the ampulla vata, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:31): which meant it was blocking something and it was a surgical problem. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:34): So the surgeons wanted to get in there and cut out part of this liver to make this right. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:39): Well, this was the, I had been, this is when I, it was in February, and I had been slacking my duties. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:46): I had been letting patients get admitted and discharged, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:49): and I hadn't looked at their urine under the microscope myself. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:51): And I hadn't done what I was trained to do. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:54): But I decided in February, I was going to get back to the old ways, and I'm going to do it right. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:58): So on this patient, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:08:59): because nobody could quite be sure what was going on, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:01): and they were going to take him to the OR, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:02): I thought, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:03): I'll go down and look at his stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:04): And I found that his urine was filled with uric crystals. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:08): filled with urate crystals. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:10): So I came back and I told these guys, and I'm just a little intern, okay? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:14): Now I'm dealing with the chiefs of surgery and the big senior residents and all this kind of stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:18): And I said, you know, how about thinking that this guy has lymphoma? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:24): Now, again, I didn't know about parasites, but I said, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:26): about this guy having lymphoma in his liver? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:29): And they just all kind of look at me. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:31): And I said, look, I just looked at his urine and it's filled with urate. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:33): And that's one of the signs of lymphoma. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:35): Do you think he could really have just lymphoma instead of this fancy tumor you're talking about? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:40): Surgerizing, in which case we could just treat him chemically. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:43): No, no, no. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:45): They got in there, make a big cut. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:46): Nothing's done, you know, by arthroscopy back then or endoscopy. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:51): So they make a big cut. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:53): They don't go in there. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:54): They take this part out and he had lymphoma. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:57): Now, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:09:58): the practical complication here was that he didn't survive this whole thing because Dr. Lee Merrit (01:10:04): because he couldn't heal the wound because he had lymphoma. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:10:08): You know, so there was so looking at people's again, we were discouraged from doing all this stuff. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:10:13): And I hear it now in these nurses because doctors aren't doing it. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:10:17): Some are my some of my friends are looking at fresh blood smears. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:10:22): But now we're going back to it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:25): The crazy part about that is for me is that that over the course of your Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:32): professional career provides a almost unconscious level of expertise that you can't Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:38): build any other way. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:39): When you've looked at 20 years of these signals and then you see an anomaly, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:44): it's very easy not to doubt that. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:46): Whereas if you are told not to practice this, don't. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:50): don't bother looking at cardinals. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:52): You know what they look like now. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:54): Don't look at them anymore. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:10:55): Then you'll never notice when the subtle feather pattern of a cardinal has changed or has interbred. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:02): And so it's, it's, it's amazing. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:05): Medicine, the whole of medicine has gone that way. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:07): How about your profession? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:08): Can you identify that kind of happening? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:13): Well, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:13): we've talked about some of the ways, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:14): but science, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:15): it seems to me like one of the ways they really discourage scientists is by not Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:20): funding them, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:11:20): of course. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:21): Yeah, that's the easiest way. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:22): I mean, you can't really understate the kind of... Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:27): pigeonholing that's done. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:28): I mean, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:28): a grant application that says we're looking for genetic causes of something is a Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:32): pigeonhole that you can't escape. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:34): I mean, you're just stuck. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:35): And so if you write that grant application, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:37): you're already asking the questions that they want you to ask. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:41): And most people, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:43): at least in my field in neurobiology, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:45): are very much trapped by the funding that they can get. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:48): And so they have to apply for grants that already are very narrow in scope. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:54): There are very few grant applications that say, tell us your great idea and we'll fund you. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:11:59): And that's the point. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:00): I mean, there aren't any more grants like that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:12:02): That's really what's done this. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:04): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:12:05): So how do we get out of that, do you think? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:10): I don't know. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:11): I don't got a good answer. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:13): I mean, people have all kinds of Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:15): of things that I don't think work. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:17): There's been a lot of proposals. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:18): The problem with it is that Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:22): um above these underpaid scientists is a whole bureaucracy that relies on them so Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:30): if if you write a grant i'm sure you know this but i'll repeat it for your viewers Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:34): if i write a grant when i was working at the university of pittsburgh for my salary Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:39): the nih has to give me 150 of that money because 50 of it is the overhead rent Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:46): costs of the university Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:48): And so when I write a grant for $500,000 for experiments, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:12:53): there has to be $2,500 on top of that that is a 50% service charge that goes into Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:00): the university for getting the grant, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:02): for hosting me. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:03): And so that money goes into the university and funds the highly paid everything. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:09): You know, the deans of these medical schools at the University of Pittsburgh Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:14): where I was working for $55,000 a year as a research assistant professor, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:20): the head of my department was paid $502,000 a year. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:22): And the head of the medical school got a $2.3 million a year salary. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:30): Wow. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:31): The dean of the medical school. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:32): And it's reported every year. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:33): It's not like people don't know. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:35): The only person who got paid more at the University of Pittsburgh than the medical Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:39): school dean is the football coach. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:40): I was just going to say, gosh, the dean is sounding like a football coach. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:13:44): Exactly. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:13:45): But the football coach individually brings in a lot of money to the university. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:50): He sure does. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:51): And the dean just oversees all these postdocs and struggling tenured professors. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:13:56): tenure track wannabes that that are writing all these grants and they siphon all Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:00): that money off the top and do whatever they do with their dei stuff and all the Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:04): other things that they do and and those are the people who need to be somehow Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:10): unseated because those are the ones that are going to perpetuate this forever Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:14): they're they're the ones that are millions of dollars into the lie whereas i think Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:18): a lot of biologists are just Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:21): think that this is the best they can do with the tools that they are offered. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:27): I'm not excusing any of these people for not realizing what was done and what's Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:32): being done to them, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:33): but I am saying that it's very easy for me to see how bamboozled they are. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:37): And I will say it very simply, Dr. Merritt, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:42): if the university of pittsburgh would have said you know you got this new german Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:46): microscope that you just got you got this new phd student we just want you to focus Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:50): on your work and and drop this you know coronavirus stuff and if you would do that Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:56): you know we'll help you out we'll give you another room or something like that i Jonathan Jay Couey (01:14:59): would have Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:00): I would not be here. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:01): I would have just done it because it was my life's work and I didn't want it to be thrown away. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:07): And if they would have feigned, you know, they just pretended like they were listening to me. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:11): And seriously, I probably would have just continued working there for sure. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:15:16): Wow. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:15:17): What was the final blow? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:15:19): I mean, what what brought you what what happened to you that you're not there? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:22): So I don't know. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:25): You can. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:25): So I had a I had a boss who was 20 years in the Navy. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:30): And he had just got out of the Navy and was starting his lab. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:36): And he was married to a Chinese woman who was like the second ranked college Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:41): graduate in Shanghai when she left. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:43): And she didn't do very well as a scientist, but fell face first in the butter, so to speak. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:49): That's a Dutch phrase. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:51): She fell face first in the butter because after her postdoc at Pitt didn't work out, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:55): she got hired by none other than McKenzie and company. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:15:59): And so at that stage, I was kind of like, what the hell's going on? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:02): And then the pandemic started. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:05): And my boss was like saying that he could read stuff on the Internet with his classified whatever's. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:12): And so he said this was really serious and he was wearing three masks and I wouldn't wear a mask. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:18): And for like. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:19): Three or four. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:21): I don't know what he was reading. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:22): He's telling me he was reading stuff. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:23): And he would get mad at me if he would come to my room and I wouldn't put a mask on. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:26): But it really blew up when one of my fellow faculty members, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:33): I had told him that, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:34): you know, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:34): you should watch one of my bike rides because I'm trying to figure this out. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:37): I've read like a lot of papers and I'm doing a review on my bicycle. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:41): You should ride it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:42): And this guy said to me in front of other faculty members, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:45): well, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:46): the New York Times says that this virus has a R naught of 16. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:50): And so I'm not sure what's on your bike ride, but I think I know all I need to know. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:54): And I exploded. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:56): I exploded. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:57): I actually screamed at him. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:16:59): I'm like, you are a faculty member at a university, at a top 10 medical school in America. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:05): And you are standing here telling me to read the New York Times, you piece of shit. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:09): Like I lost it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:12): And it was in front of a number of other faculty members, like in a hallway. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:15): And the next day- But you were right. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:19): And they asked me not to come in because they were afraid. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:23): And then that was it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:24): They just ran out. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:24): And you know, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:26): along those lines, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:27): that whole thing with everybody, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:30): how many, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:31): the kid in the grocery store now suddenly knew what R0 value meant. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:34): It was just hysterical. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:35): But nobody ever points out that you can create an incredible, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:40): they kept saying, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:41): oh, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:41): we've never seen an R0 value like this. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:43): But you know what could do that is a contact poison. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:47): You can simulate the worst R0 value in the world because it's not one person infecting another. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:17:53): It's just looking like it, but you're actually just poisoning an environment. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:56): Might be turning it on. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:17:58): If you started measuring the prevalence of Toyotas at zero and then said they were spreading, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:03): you would also find a high R0 of Toyotas. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:06): That's right. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:18:07): That's excellent. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:18:09): That's really excellent. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:18:12): So what other old books have you bought? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:18:14): Because I'm doing the same thing. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:16): Oh, yeah. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:17): So I would recommend two books by, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:21): I haven't gotten very far in this one, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:25): Synergetics by Buckminster Fuller. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:28): It's an amazing book, but I've only gotten 20 pages into it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:32): But he's got a much better book for kids called, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:36): it's called, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:37): you can get a copy of it or I'll send it to you, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:39): Buckminster Fuller, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:40): To the Children of Earth. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:42): And it's a really nice book because he talks about life as a pattern integrity. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:48): And I have been using the argument that viruses aren't pattern integrities and Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:53): that's why they can't pandemic. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:18:55): And his explanation for what a pattern integrity is, is on this page with a rope. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:00): And he just talks about how you can make a rope made of three materials, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:05): and then you can tie a knot in the rope and the knot will slide down the rope. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:09): And the pattern integrity is the rope. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:11): It's not the nylon, it's not the hemp, it's not the cotton. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:14): But the pattern integrity becomes each of those materials as it moves through the rope. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:18): And we are a very complex pattern integrity where materials move through us, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:23): but are only a part of us for a short period of time. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:25): And a virus is nothing like that. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:27): So there's no way that it could do the magical things that they say it can do. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:32): Only life can do that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:19:33): Yeah, and I think the word magical is what the point is. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:19:38): If you have a made-up object, it's like a magic wand. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:41): Oh, yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:19:41): It can convince people. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:19:42): It can do anything. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:44): This is the best book I've found, though. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:45): This one is called Man and His Future, and I have a couple different copies of it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:49): I'll find it for you. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:19:51): In this book, there is essays from Sir Julian Huxley, among others, and one of them is Hilary Kaprowski. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:00): And Hilary Kaprowski is a very interesting guy that I could never do justice with in a short essay. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:06): But let me assure you that the reason why it's important to read his essay in here Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:11): is because he talks about viruses coming from bats and going around the world, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:16): which is pretty interesting to talk about in the 60s. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:18): The exact same story. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:21): So this is a really good book to get a hand on as well. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:20:24): That wasn't published by the Club of Rome, was it? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:28): No, it was. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:30): No, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:30): that's very funny you ask that because it was like some CIBA foundation, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:35): C-I-B-A, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:36): which you might have heard of. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:37): Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:20:38): Kind of a similar sort of. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:20:43): Okay, so that's a place that maybe we can go to finish things out. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:20:49): So you've brought up several points, and I think it's really cogent, the idea that they're just pushing. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:20:54): They can make up a very convincing story around these things. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:20:58): My friend James Grunvig says, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:00): we're dealing with a 5,000-year-old Sumerian death cult that projects its power Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:05): through narrative. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:06): Yes, that's it. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:08): They're projecting power through narrative. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:12): How much, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:12): I mean, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:13): do you get days where you just think maybe the whole world is just artificial and Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:18): I'm really living in a matrix and none of this makes, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:21): none of this is real. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:23): There's gotta be another way out. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:24): I mean, how do you look at this? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:25): Because I can't figure out what's real, what I think should think is real and not in the big picture. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:31): You know, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:31): we, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:31): they got us down here looking at the, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:33): at the weeds, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:34): like looking at the little part, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:35): like, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:35): like you're not your, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:36): your pattern. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:38): What would you call it? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:39): Pattern synergy? Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:40): Pattern integrity. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:41): Pattern integrity. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:42): You know, we're looking at one part of the knot. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:21:46): What should we be doing, do you think? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:21:48): How do we get ourselves out of this? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:21:50): I think you hinted at it at the beginning. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:21:52): I think we have to go back to what we really know. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:21:55): I think that's one of the things I'm trying to do is figure out what biological Jonathan Jay Couey (01:21:59): observations in the past are real but misinterpreted as opposed to just being bullshit. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:04): Because I think that's the very dangerous thing is that we would just throw away Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:08): everything that we knew because we were just discounting it all. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:12): And that would be clearly a mistake, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:13): in my humble opinion, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:14): because what we need to do is take account of the knowledge we think we have and Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:19): try to sift through it for the observations that we can use to rebuild, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:24): as opposed to the observations that meant nothing, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:26): that were pushed on us by an illusion of consensus about what they meant. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:31): And so I think that's why it's really important to understand where these Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:36): with whom these ideas originated, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:39): because then you can start to trace their students and realize that one of the Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:43): things that being in academia taught me is that when you have a teacher that you Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:48): love and respect, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:49): that teacher can tell you anything. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:51): And unless you're a really, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:54): really hardcore student, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:22:56): you might end up being lied to or misled or adopting the mistakes of your mentor. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:02): And so if there's anything that I think virology is based on, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:06): it's based on selecting the right students, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:10): getting them to ask the right questions and never turn in the direction of Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:14): questioning the fundamentals Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:17): Of what you're training them. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:18): And that's why the same virologists have trained a lot of these people that are now Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:23): kind of still clinging to this as a truth. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:26): Because they have to. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:27): They were trained that way. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:29): They were taught that way. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:30): And the fundamental understanding they have of the world rests on this belief. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:34): this model of there being viruses, or at least their whole identity rests on this. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:23:39): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:23:39): It's hard to break people out of that. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:41): I mean, I struggled with it because I used adenovirus to do the transformations that I used in my mice. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:48): And so it took me a long time to understand that that wasn't evidence of virology. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:52): That's evidence of transformation and transfection. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:54): Transfection. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:55): That's evidence that we can- With something. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:57): Yeah. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:23:57): Yeah, that's not evidence that adenovirus in the wild does stuff. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:01): They just sold me a product that they said was adenovirus 27 with this construct Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:06): that I designed in it and I transformed my animals. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:09): But I misappropriated that as evidence for virology instead of what it is, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:14): is evidence for synthetic biology. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:24:17): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:24:18): Or toxicology. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:24:19): Maybe we should just get toxicology. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:20): That's biochemistry. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:22): Exactly. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:24:22): Because I think, you know, the idea that virus in Latin means means poison or toxin. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:24:27): You know, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:24:28): I think we've been that's our narrative that we need to change our language to get Dr. Lee Merrit (01:24:31): ourselves out of. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:24:32): That's one of the things I keep saying. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:33): I love that. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:34): I think that's absolutely right. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:36): It's a semantic game. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:37): Most of it is semantics. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:38): And if we take back control of the words and we can be precise and force them to be precise, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:44): I think that that's how we make our way forward. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:46): That's why, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:46): for example, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:48): I think it's really important to say things like intramuscular injection of any Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:53): combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:24:57): So you say it really succinctly so that every biologist and every gas station Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:03): attendant can understand exactly what you're saying. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:06): And you don't use any of the words that are poorly defined like virus or vaccine. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:10): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:11): My boys, when they graduated from things, I put I made this huge petty point diploma, you know. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:17): Oh, nice. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:17): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:18): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:18): You know, Creighton University or whatever it was. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:20): And maybe I need to do you know, people do that for, you know, home sweet home. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:25): I think we do. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:28): I can find somebody on Etsy to do it for us. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:30): Maybe YouTube. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:31): Maybe they can do it with a machine fast. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:33): Took me four years and I was glad they graduated in four. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:36): Man, this was a really awesome, awesome. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:25:39): Where can people find your work or what you do? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:42): You can find me at GigaOMBiological.com. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:46): GigaOM is spelled G-I-G-A-O-H-M. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:50): It means biological. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:52): a million ohms. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:54): So it's the highest resistance possible, basically. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:56): I love it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:25:57): It's really, it comes from my recordings. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:00): That's how you record from a neuron. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:01): You make a gigaohm seal. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:03): And so I also have my videos hosted on a website that is stream.gigaohm.bio. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:10): But again, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:11): all of this stuff can be found if you just know and spell gigaohm and biological, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:15): you can find me. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:16): Yeah, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:17): so almost every day I'm on Twitch and on my own and on Rumble simultaneously trying Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:23): to teach some aspect of this. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:24): And I actually start every show now with saying that intramuscular injection Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:29): statement because I think it's really important. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:31): And I also tell everybody that transfection was always criminally negligent. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:35): And the reason why I say that is because every academic biologist in America and Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:39): around the world should have already known what transfection and transformation was. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:43): And so when they told us this was an investigational vaccine using lipids and RNA, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:49): they should have said, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:49): hey, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:49): that's transfection in my book. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:52): But most people didn't. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:53): And that's a real big problem because if they had, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:26:56): then a lot of people probably wouldn't have gone forward and taken it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:02): And the last one is really, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:03): I think it's important, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:04): we really dug into it well in this one, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:06): that RNA is not a pattern integrity. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:09): So RNA by itself could never pandemic. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:11): And finding the same RNA all over the world, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:14): I think can only be explained either by lies or by them putting it there with Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:19): Very basic synthetic means. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:20): And so once you understand that the biosecurity state needs you to believe that Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:26): these dangers exist and that there is a very simple way for them to have put these Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:31): signals there, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:32): then it's very hard to imagine that it would be any more complicated than that, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:36): at least in my humble opinion. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:27:38): You know, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:27:39): I've come to the conclusion that they can put out whatever they want, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:27:42): and then they just falsify the test, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:27:44): and they find whatever they want, Dr. Lee Merrit (01:27:46): which has nothing to do with what they poisoned us with. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:27:48): I really do think they put out a contact poison, but yeah. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:51): Well, I won't argue with that. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:53): I would just say that if they were as malevolent as we expect they were, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:57): then they put that in some places. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:27:58): In other places, they didn't, so that they could have liability. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:03): There were probably... Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:04): Yeah, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:04): there were probably graphene particles in Spain and somewhere else and nowhere in Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:08): the United States. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:09): So everybody in the United States could say, well, we looked at it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:11): We didn't find anything. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:12): They must be full of it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:13): And so this just creates more confusion. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:15): And the more variables there were, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:17): the more ways that they killed people, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:19): the less likely it is that we're ever going to solve the mystery. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:21): That's the point. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:28:22): And I think we have to stop them pretty quick because I think we're coming down. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:28:25): We can't take much more of this. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:27): No, we definitely can't. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:28:27): They're poisoning everything in our environment. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:30): Yes, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:31): I think that's also one of the things that they, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:33): you know, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:33): they get us to focus on a novel virus and not the millions of different ways Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:38): they're poisoning our water and our soil and our air. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:40): And they've been doing that for decades. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:42): We all know that. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:43): I mean, that's why there are Superfund sites, right? Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:45): And so to me, Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:47): that's all part and parcel for how they get us to ask the wrong questions and argue Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:52): very vigorously about those questions until we're blue in the face. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:28:56): Instead of listening to people like you who are trying to ask different questions to get farther Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:01): So I don't know what to say other than I'm so happy I finally got to meet you. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:05): Well, I'm so happy I finally got to meet you. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:07): I wish we'd collaborated a long time ago because I think we could we could really take these bastards. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:13): I got to tell you, we can. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:15): But we can go from there. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:16): Yeah. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:16): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:18): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:19): Well, that's great. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:20): Thank you so much again, Dr. J. Cooley. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:22): And you are from Chicago. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:24): We're going to write, I'm going to write GigaOM. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:27): I like the GigaOM. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:28): GigaOMBiological.com. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:31): Yeah, it's exactly how you said it. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:33): It's not helped me at all having such a silly name. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:36): But in the end, it comes from the heart. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:39): I actually had started making clothes with this symbol on it while I was still Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:43): patch clamping because I was going to start clothes for patch clampers. (01:29:46): Oh, that's hysterical. (01:29:48): We actually had this. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:50): I had this already a long time ago thinking I was being silly. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:53): And then when this started, I was like, well, I got the perfect name already. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:29:56): So I just went with it. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:57): Right. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:29:57): Well, when you said the maximum resistance, I'm thinking of, you know, like resistance to tyranny. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:30:04): And my viewers have coined the phrase that freedom is measured in ohms. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:30:08): So you can also say that now, which I think is very clever. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:12): That is really cool. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:13): That's very cool. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:15): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:15): Well, let's stay in touch. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:16): I really enjoyed this. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:18): We got to do this again. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:30:19): Very good. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:30:19): Thank you very much for having me. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:30:21): I really appreciate it. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:22): Yeah. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:22): We didn't even get into you with the children's health defense, but we're going to do that in the future. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:30:26): I'd be happy to come back. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:30:27): I'd be happy to come back. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:28): We need to do that. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:29): All right. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:30): Thanks again. Jonathan Jay Couey (01:30:31): You're welcome. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:31): Stay in touch, Jay. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:32): Okay. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:33): Bye-bye. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:34): Bye. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:34): At TheMedicalRebel.com, every Monday night, we do a podcast with great guests. Dr. Lee Merrit (01:30:38): We have live Q&A, book reviews, interactive chat, and more. 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